Why Men Over 40 Need Brotherhood More Than They Admit with Mista Yu - 142

Coach Brian Parana (0:3.202) What if the strongest man in the room is actually showing up running on empty? We see this in boardrooms, we see this in even households with families and all. And a lot of the guys that I work with and my guest today works with, they are doing big things in their life with careers or they're financially stable or whatnot, but they have some challenges with time management, with their health, with Coach Brian Parana (0:32.962) Their mental health. And these are things that we want to open up the conversation with. And the grind of life is costing you something. And we need to figure that out. And if you're listening to the show, you are looking for answers around improving your health. And we're going to talk about that, but also the mental health side of things too. And you do not have to do this alone. Most guys are in the especially in their later years of life, 40, 50, 60. Coach Brian Parana (1:2.484) And they don't have a lot of actual real relationships that have any sort of value outside of acquaintances and all. And that's why I'm bringing on Mista Yu from the men's roundtable series to talk about the high performance culture, why men need brotherhood and how to actually change. He's been doing this for, shoot, it's been well over two decades. He's built companies, he's crushing things in his own life and wants to translate that into other. Coach Brian Parana (1:32.086) Men. And that's what his mission is. So, Mista Yu, welcome to episode one forty two of Driven for Health Podcast. Excited to have you. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (1:42.110) Thank you, Coach Brian. Appreciate you being here or having me here. And I'm glad to be be here to talk with you, man. Coach Brian Parana (1:47.878) Exactly, exactly. So we're gonna let's let's jump into who a little bit about you and what you're gonna bring to the show. Like what are the what's the biggest takeaway that you want guys listening in to have so that they just like pull out some pen and paper and start taking notes here. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (2:5.673) I think you touched it a little bit, man. I I know this sounds really simple coming out of my mouth, but we don't have to do this alone. I stress community and everything that I do because I recognize what isolation looks like and the and the destination that you end up at when you go into that space of isolation, kind of trying to control the environment and just trying to make things work best for you from a comfort standpoint. Community breaks all of that. Community pushes us into Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (2:34.695) hard places and allows us to not only see ourselves but see others with a different perspective. So I push community and what I see just to answer your question, Brian, is that men generally speaking, who we come in contact with, it's been over six years of the of the of the show of the podcast space, but with men coaching almost this should be this is year thirty that we in right now. It's the same situation. Men think they can do it by themselves. They think they don't need anybody's help. They don't need to share anything with anybody and have anybody to lean on. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (3:4.903) And always has disastrous results. So that's that's number one. If I can rank so something that men men are dealing with or not dealing with, that would be number one. Coach Brian Parana (3:12.971) Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's like the blind leading the blind because you're leading yourself, but you don't actually know where you're going or what you're missing out on, or having third person perspective from the outside looking in. It was like, Hey, bro. in my house, I got four kids and everyone's a bro. So but hey, hey, bro. you know, even my daughter, my wife, I'm a bro. You know, my daughter, it's just funny. She's so so like, hey, bro. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (3:26.953) Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (3:37.631) my goodness. Coach Brian Parana (3:40.650) Yeah, you're doing things that seem out of character and out of alignment. What's going on? And if you don't have someone to pull you out of that or get you to pause and think and become aware of your current situation or your thought patterns, your behavior patterns or anything like that, you could just literally wander down this rabbit hole for a while and it can lead to some unfortunately pretty destructive places as we go. And that that is very disruptive to people's lives. Coach Brian Parana (4:8.925) and other people's eyes. So not just the singular man, but the this the sphere of influence that that person has around them as well. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (4:18.142) Yeah. Absolutely, man. That's what the action is, that's where the challenges are for men. So we need each other more than we wanna let on sometimes. So Coach Brian Parana (4:30.273) Yeah, very much so. I I find myself, I'll admit that I I can be people have called me a lone wolf, like business partners and stuff. And and even my wife will call me out. It's like, hey, you need to go do something with someone, like a real person. because I I really attach to a provider role and I will hustle, I'll grind, I will put in the work. Even this podcast, hundred and forty two episodes since September twenty third. That yeah, thank you. That's that's Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (4:44.286) Wow. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (4:57.086) Congratulations, man. Congrats, man. Coach Brian Parana (4:59.969) But that's a significant amount of just me talking to my computer, plus all the research and the post-production. And you know all about that because you've been releasing shows too. It takes a lot of time, energy, and effort to do these things. And I'm happy to do it. But still, so I have my my what three amigos. We've got Dan, Chris, Leo, and even my fourth one we would do with Andy as well. And but these guys center around. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (5:8.010) Yeah, sure. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (5:12.232) Definitely. Definitely. Coach Brian Parana (5:29.181) Other mutual interest. So basically we all work out together in a sense. Chris and Dan. Dan's actually a middle school friend of mine. Literally, I've known this guy my whole life pretty much since I was like 13 or something, w which is really cool. And we were have been best friends basically since high school. We played band together, we did track cross country together. He's the one who got me to go work at Burger King with them. He's like, come work with me. And and so like Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (5:33.907) Okay. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (5:38.879) Wow. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (5:42.836) That's the reason. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (5:55.751) Sheesh. Coach Brian Parana (5:57.154) We've been like amigos in a sense for a while. But he's got four kids and and Chris has four kids and Andy has three kids and Leo has five kids and I have four kids and we're super busy, man. And so well our time together is like let's work out, let's have community that way. And that that really checks a lot of boxes for us in a sense. But w but without those guys that I share more personal stuff with and have more proximity to. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (6:6.600) Wow. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (6:22.111) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (6:24.115) especially with just time too, because if you don't have time, there isn't proximity, right? You have to develop relationships over time. and so, but other than that, everyone else is an acquaintance in my life. And I I can be social, I can be friendly and all this, but it doesn't have depth. Coach Brian Parana (6:41.917) And I can't get called out because I'm not going to be vulnerable. I'm not going to be open. I'm not going to show layers. Like everyone's always going to see Brian is happy, go lucky, energetic, fitness guy, in a sense. But they won't see some of the other challenges because I'm a human and I have challenges just like anyone else does. So I'd be silly to say I didn't. So for you, what what do you see with the the the community that you're growing with the conversations you're having on the round table and Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (6:55.209) Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (7:4.013) Mm-hmm. Coach Brian Parana (7:11.277) you know, we had our podcast episode, which was wonderful and awesome. That's why you're here. But then I'm gonna be getting into some of these roundtable series as well. So I'm really looking forward to rolling my sleeves up with guys talking about real things. So let's let's jump in about what are some of the things that the roundtable series is actually covering for guys. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (7:28.330) Well, it's it's really multi-layered, but 'cause I I I know that as men we want the bottom line. We want to kinda lay it out one sentence. I can't do that with this show because it has so many layers to it. But I think if there it is a it there's a central point, we just want men to know that they're not only not not alone, but that there is a safe space for them to deal with the stuff that nobody in the world, whether it be family or Coach Brian Parana (7:41.354) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (7:58.057) relationships, media, you know, wants to even acknowledge even exists. So we just I feel compelled, I call it an epiphany for lack of a better word, to open up this safe space. I've been in the coaching realm for this is year thirty that I'm in right now. Never never really focused on men solely until maybe about a little less than two years ago. So it's been it's been more of a renewed focus. And that's what we're trying to accomplish there. We talk about Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (8:27.902) The father wound. We talk about mental health struggles. We had a two-month series on mental health. And we still have more meat on the bone. We had to end it because we're at the end of our of our series time. But that was extensive to say the least. Relationships. Yeah, relationships with other men, which is something that, you know, you don't you don't hear it discussed really at all. I'm a product of a blended well, I'm I'm a part of a blended family. So Coach Brian Parana (8:41.195) Right. It could have kept going, huh? Coach Brian Parana (8:45.954) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (8:55.730) The step parent versus the father thing. We deal with that kind of stuff. So there's really nothing on the table. We we dealt with everything except maybe two very sensitive issues so far, but it's been over a year since last summer. We deal with everything, man. And I just I'm I'm I'm impressed by these men on this panel because I didn't think my time my timeline was not what actually happened. I said, you know what? I know a man, because I'm a man, I'm gonna give it a year before men start opening up. Coach Brian Parana (8:56.609) Yeah. Me too. Coach Brian Parana (9:24.045) Yeah. Yeah, right. they were s ready to talk. Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (9:25.682) It took a week. These guy these these guys were spilling. They were spilling. They were on air sobbing. Some of these guys, or at least cheered up in in most cases, and just spilling and just sharing everything. I'm like, wow. I didn't expect that. And these men have evolved, they've grown, they're taking personal responsibility for what's going on in their life and where they are and are not emotionally, spiritually, mentally, etcetera. Coach Brian Parana (9:34.327) Yeah. Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (9:38.572) Right. Coach Brian Parana (9:51.969) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (9:53.971) It's been a incredible journey, man. I'm honored to just be a part of it. I'm I'm humbled. I'm humbled by God. I learn something every episode, I learn something too. Even though I'm moderating everything, I'm learning something every single week, man. So it's a pleasure. So so glad to have you on board too, man. I can't wait to get you in the box with us, man, and and kinda share these experiences. Coach Brian Parana (10:1.131) Yeah. Right. Right. Coach Brian Parana (10:8.929) Yeah. I like to be vulnerable and and have authentic conversations. So I I will try I'll definitely do my best to bring the heat and and have participate here. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And so some of the things that I'm dealing with too that I've shared on other podcasts, I think episode fifty-nine, I believe. I was getting coached by Coach Jon Sheldon and he was talking to me about Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (10:18.167) you'll be fine, man. I'm excited, man. Coach Brian Parana (10:38.283) Just like who I am, why am I doing things? What are these drivers underneath me? And just like father wounds, like my father hasn't been an active part of my life for twenty years. I'm forty-three. I I so I have no wisdom in a sense from above that's being disp dispelled onto me. My grandparents, my grandfathers, they passed away in the nineties. and then my dad, after I got out of college, it just Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (10:58.740) Right, right, right. Coach Brian Parana (11:5.445) became this just separation and and stuff because I have a blended family as well. My parents divorced when I was about twelve ish or so. And I saw my dad every other weekend. And and so that was less men in you know, a man in my life dispelling wisdom and guidance. And I always looked up to my father. And then it just at some points like this guy is not relevant to me anymore. Coach Brian Parana (11:31.896) Like I don't know who he is. He definitely doesn't know who I am and what I've been doing. And he has no relationship at all. I don't think he's really even seen my kids, which is sad, but true. And so we have father wounds. We have this this lack of men. And and so with if I don't have that connection with my father, then how open can I be with any other man as well? Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (11:54.580) Yeah, yeah. Coach Brian Parana (11:54.974) And and if I don't have self-awareness to put myself in positions in a sense, or like say this podcast as a platform, it's really easy for me to just be my own little bubble and it's like the blind leading blind. I'm just going about my way and there's no outside influence around someone that is wanting to to look at me in a sense or help me or or guide me or shepherd me or wisdom all that stuff. So let's talk about what what ends up being the the Coach Brian Parana (12:24.581) the top one or two things that you see that men are challenged with more than maybe some other issues. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (12:35.082) I think one thing comes to mind immediately, and that's the the intentional shedding of the narrative. there's we are we all have we talked about it multiple times or multiple shows, it's almost a weekly topic. There's this playbook that's kind of an invisible playbook. And we have so much that we're generally fighting through. And one thing I see that comes to the surface is that we have to, you know. Coach Brian Parana (12:44.395) Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (13:3.646) kind of shed the roles. You mentioned the provider role earlier. It sounds cool. Sound like two cool words, but what's attached to it? How does it impact our children and our household, the next generation? How does it impact our spouse? How does it impact our ability to not only be there as a provider, but also be there for our family in the other ways that matter too? The ways that they're going to care about years down the line. They ain't gonna remember dad went to work every day for 60 hours. They're going to remember what you did with them. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (13:33.375) How you spent time with them, how you invested in them, were you at their games, were you at their recitals? That's what they're gonna remember. So that's probably the first thing is kind of shedding those narratives and being intentional about it and recognizing that, well, shedding and identifying those narratives because sometimes some guys don't even see it. They've been doing it five generations deep and don't even know that this is the problem. So so those so those are that's probably that's probably two all wrapped up in one. I think the second one is the whole vulnerability piece. Coach Brian Parana (13:33.601) Yep. Right. Coach Brian Parana (13:39.245) Right. Mm-hmm. Coach Brian Parana (13:55.671) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (14:3.477) yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (14:3.976) I [unclear] if they dropped that word on your show already because that one was the one that is the tough one. I I I hear what you're saying about having these four guys in your life and how you and how that you're there for each other. You know, a lot of guys that are on the show, they know that that's the right way to go. They know that there's safety in the multitude of counsel, if you will. but they don't they don't take the actions that are required to get there. Coach Brian Parana (14:33.463) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (14:33.652) They don't they don't do because these guys, I mean, people should know that they can call me at two, three in the morning and I'll take their call. Because I because I said I because I said I would. I don't want them to be the guys on the bridge or in in the dark of the night with a bottle of pills in their hand. I don't want them to be that person. I'd rather put myself out there to be there for them in that moment, whether we have a distance between us geographically or not. But what the second thing I think is the problem is that the guys, they know this in here. Coach Brian Parana (14:41.121) Right. Right. Coach Brian Parana (14:52.129) Right. Coach Brian Parana (14:58.401) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (15:3.966) But in application, they don't put it in place. They don't have this trusted board of directors in their life. The people who they they know they can go to no matter what happens, no matter where they are in the world, no matter where they are in the season, they haven't spoken to the guy in weeks and months. They know that they can reach out and call them guys. We talk about it at the end of most shows, but we hang up, we close out, the broadcast is over, they deal with stuff, and they don't always pick the phone up. Coach Brian Parana (15:12.404) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (15:33.684) So those are the two things that we've been stressing a lot lately. I have no idea why those two things have been the the topics, but they have been. The vulnerability piece for sure in the second one. Coach Brian Parana (15:36.417) Mm-hmm. Coach Brian Parana (15:41.758) Right. Right. Right. Shedding the narrative. so provider role for me, that's very strong. I have four kids, so they literally just cost a lot of time and money. Right? Like there's no way around it. There's no way around that. And I have to accept that responsibility because I literally created them. So I do. But last week we were in Alaska for about eight days and I spent a lot of time with them. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (15:54.986) Absolutely. You know it. Coach Brian Parana (16:8.529) And we had amazing things. We saw all sorts of whales and orcas and wildlife and adventures and did all these things and had a lot of family time. And I spent a lot of time. I've talked about it on the show a couple a number of times that I definitely resonate with family being super important. I'm at every event. I took I've taken my kids just today to two different places, one to cross country training and the other one to a summer camp. And I'm gonna go pick I pick both of them up. Coach Brian Parana (16:38.263) So like I am very present there. But as soon as I got back was Friday, and it's back into the to the work grind in a sense or the work hustle or the work. I gotta prioritize that to pay all the credit cards that are coming from the wonderful experience that we had. So so we have to have some balance here. but I I have had my head down. It's today's Wednesday we're recording this and Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (16:46.782) Mm-hmm. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (16:54.078) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (17:1.707) But since Friday to Wednesday, it's been pretty much like work, work, work, work, work, work and and do a little bit of family time. And so then I get into this imbalance again of doing this work thing because I need to provide for my family and then have this this rote this this constant wheel of that in a sense. And and so that I I have found some balance to it. There's still a lot of imbalance going on there, but I can see that what are some other ways that that Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (17:6.409) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (17:31.615) you've seen guys fall into this narrative of the provider role, or the impact on the people around them? Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (17:40.469) Think it's just a fear of of trusting. Trusting God in some in some respects. That and we do discuss that. Trusting another man, somebody who they may not know as well, but may have wisdom, maybe they can fit into a mentor role in their life, but they don't trust kind of releasing the reins. They try to hold on to it because it's gives them a sense of control. It doesn't always profit them very well. Coach Brian Parana (17:46.832) Yeah. Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (18:9.428) There's no real results that they can see, nothing tangibly there. Yeah, that it's it's not it's not even there, but they still they still got a white-knuckle grip on those reins holding on to those. I I think it's it it's it's a struggle to watch that. when I do it, I really kick myself with steel toe boots, like, you should know better. You teaching folks this and this is what you're gonna do. So I think I think I might have missed part of your question, but that was the Coach Brian Parana (18:11.551) Yeah. ROI. Coach Brian Parana (18:30.731) Yeah. Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (18:36.210) definitely one thing that I just seen we've just seen so much more lately now. And I I I don't know why we continue to keep doing that, but we have so much Coach Brian Parana (18:43.233) Mm-hmm. Well, I think you said it earlier it was generational. it's always been known that men don't ask for directions, right? From from great grandparents and and beyond. Or even if we think about, I was taking notes as you were talking, but men to men in older let's go back, you know, centuries and stuff, men to men, that there's conflict there usually. There's not there's not alignment. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (18:51.476) Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (18:54.138) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (19:10.433) And there's obviously more alignment now because there's a bit more convenience in life, there's more accessibility to resources, right? We have figured those things out as a human race, but we go back and and we go back to people are fighting over land or resource, then there's conflict. And so men to men, there there's that. So Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (19:22.261) yeah. yeah. Coach Brian Parana (19:36.041) And even mental health is something you never talked about. Like men don't cry. And now we have a bit more of social acceptance around it's okay for a man to bare his emotions and to show and have [unclear] in a sense around that. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (19:52.715) Yeah, absolutely, man. What one of the things that I should I should be getting some royalties for this book. I I talk about it all the time in i in almost every men's setting. There's one book, excluding the Bible, of course, one book that has dramatically changed my life for my view on manhood. I highly recommend it to anybody who has a challenge, and there's a follow-up book. It's by John Eldredge. It's called Wild at Heart. That that book right there will Coach Brian Parana (20:18.791) yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. That one gets it. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (20:23.004) It will it would not only expose an area, but it will crush the whole idea of some of this some of these things and put you on the right path. There's a follow up called Fathered by God, which will really mess you up. So those two books together are kind of my go-to's. Honestly, like what you were saying, we don't we don't learn a lot of this stuff, no, especially in modern day times. No matter what you talk about, it's kind of just an established standard. But we don't question it. And it's like it's damaging. Coach Brian Parana (20:28.247) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (20:50.487) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (20:51.804) is damaging to our spouses in in different ways that we talked about on the show. It's all damaging to our kids too. Because we're repeating these patterns and we're kind of raising broken people from a place of brokenness. You know that can't work. That can't work. Coach Brian Parana (20:59.319) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (21:5.577) Yeah. No, no. You can't build there's no foundation to support all that. So that was the third point of the shedding narrative that you did, the impact on people around us. When you aren't open, you aren't vulnerable, you don't have that community of other men to help support you. What are the the common conversations of the impact of those around you? Like I for me, I'll I'll share first is that there is impact on my wife. I've had my head down. Coach Brian Parana (21:33.004) working. So there's not a lot of conversation and communication or interaction, even in a sense, because I'm I'm working and doing these things and not d but also did a whole week's worth of I literally was next to her pretty much 24 seven. There was very little time that that we weren't together. So there is that balance in a sense and I still have to again provide and all, but that ends up being a thing. So what what are some of the impacts that you see are talked about on the show? Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (21:51.914) Mm-hmm. Coach Brian Parana (22:2.429) Of the people around you. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (22:5.642) I think that and this is last week's show, but it's it's been it's discussed on pretty much every show. We go into a I come in with a topic and a direction, and we go off the rails every single week, and it's a beautiful disaster. It's a beautiful disaster. I love it. But I think one of the things I I see is the isolation piece. we see that the depression piece crops in. We're starting to realize that you know, we deal with depression for a long time. We didn't realize that's what it was because Coach Brian Parana (22:15.585) Yeah. And really yeah, wonderful. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (22:35.570) even for myself even hosting this show with and these and these incredible men that come on here. I thought that depression was, you know, white coats and padded rooms. I didn't know that depression was something you can have and not be at that end of the spectrum, so to speak. So I didn't know that. So we're learning a lot about, you know, the whole mental health piece. And I see men who are kind of drowning themselves in their work. They said, you know, I got guys that can't even take a break. There was one guy Coach Brian Parana (22:51.276) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (23:5.524) He's no longer associated with the show anymore. He decided to move on to some other things. But he was saying that he couldn't just sit down and have a day off or take a break. It filled him with fear and guilt. Like he was lazy. So he would find a project to do and and and he would end up falling asleep almost on a nightly basis at his desk or slash workstation because he couldn't take time to rest. I'm like. Coach Brian Parana (23:13.506) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (23:19.617) Right. Coach Brian Parana (23:33.601) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (23:34.119) Even God rested, man. How what's your justification for not resting? Why do why do you think you don't need to do that? So it was a point of contention that we had for multiple t weeks and months on the show. And now, I don't know if he ever came to terms with that or not, 'cause we haven't talked a whole lot, but that's that's definitely a couple of factors that we see from people who are, you know, not taking into account the community and the need for self evaluation. Coach Brian Parana (23:36.137) Yeah, seventh day. Coach Brian Parana (23:40.491) Right. Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (24:3.531) Yeah, definitely, definitely. Has anyone talked, I'm sure, talked about how their partners or their children are interacting and engaging with them when they are in this isolation or depressed or even say depressed would just be a lower state of energy coming from yourself than what you you say should be. Now we can't always be say the best version of ourselves, but we should always be say putting the best foot forward. Coach Brian Parana (24:30.699) with our energy and our effort to present ourselves in the best way, in in authenticity as well. We gotta throw that word in there because you can't just fake it. That that that easily gets called out. But is there anyone talking about some of the like their partners, their spouse, their kids and and the impact that this isolation is having on them. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (24:54.846) Yeah, I think if I had to throw a percentage out, eighty percent of them, eighty-five percent of them, their spouses and their children will let them know that you're drifting. They'll let them know that. The show's been a good barometer. It's not my words, it's theirs. It's on YouTube, Facebook, so you can see it. They they're saying it, not me. I'm not prompting them. They're saying that, you know, this show has kind of been helping them stay afloat. Coach Brian Parana (25:7.787) Yeah, yeah, yeah. My wife does that. Coach Brian Parana (25:18.316) Right. Coach Brian Parana (25:21.239) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (25:24.734) Which is intimidating to me, 'cause I'm like, okay, this week I'm not gonna have a show. You gonna be all right? So I I I think about that kind of stuff. But there there has been about ten, fifteen percent who kind of intimated that their spouses have gotten accustomed to it. So th so there's not there's not really a big fight. They kinda got used to the fact that this is what they're gonna do. I've Coach Brian Parana (25:32.917) Right. Coach Brian Parana (25:47.586) Right. At some point you're like in that situation you are sending signals to someone and it just that ends up being by default what happens. That's just human behavior, is that you end up falling to the common the commonalities that happen. So if you're always you come home from work and you're always grumpy, tired, you then that that just becomes that version of yourself that you always see and then you you you think about or Coach Brian Parana (26:17.397) It just is ingrained in the the day to day behavior around five o'clock. Well, John or Bill or whoever comes home and and this is how they act as a result of their what they've been showing us for years of patterns of behavior. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (26:33.748) Yeah. It's it's pretty I try to fight that and push back whenever whenever I hear it's it's not often 'cause most of the guys they have they have strong spouses, spouses who are actually paying attention to what's going on on the show. My wife's probably one of the biggest fans of the show from a female perspective. She watches every show. I have no idea why she's doing that. she's not she's not spying on me. She doesn't have to w worry about me. We we're pretty solid. Coach Brian Parana (26:46.818) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (26:53.484) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (26:57.345) Right. Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (26:58.974) This month is gonna be 30 years for us. We in this fight together. She already knows me. I know her. We're good. But she is a big fan, religiously watches this show. So I don't I don't get it. But there are a lot of there are a lot of women who are watching the show, and she has a lot to say about the panels and the topics, and a lot of other spouses, they they they follow up with it as well. So there's a support system out here, and we're growing it. It's not where I want it to be, but it's pretty good. Coach Brian Parana (27:1.478) Mm. Yeah, yeah. Coach Brian Parana (27:8.267) Yeah. Your biggest fan. Coach Brian Parana (27:25.077) Yeah, yeah. Well, hey, you gotta put yourself out there. The same thing with podcasts. I'm going to keep creating and opening up opportunities to be able to grow and put it out there so that people can get more help. Guys can be healthier. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yep. Yeah, we didn't know each other. Now we do and and and here we go. so it'll be good. Yeah, very much so. All right. vulnerability. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (27:28.458) Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (27:41.490) You're doing it, man. You're doing it. 142, man. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (27:49.086) Yeah, man. I'm excited, man. Coach Brian Parana (27:54.284) Let's jump into that a little bit. Something else that you said. How you you shared it just a little bit ago that the guys actually when giving a safe space to open up, it feels like vulnerability becomes a lot more natural, a lot more open and a lot more accepted. but in your experience running the men's round table, where do you see vulnerability at in in terms of it of guys actually opening up or be willing to in the first place? Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (28:24.758) it's it's a I have to call it a phenomenon because I don't know how else to describe it. it's a safe space that everybody can see. I get the hypocrisy of it, but I really feel led to dub it the safe space for men, and it it it's it's showing itself to be that way. I don't let people come on and insult the men. I don't let people come in, females come in and attack the men in any way. I don't allow it. So in that regard, it is truly safe. Coach Brian Parana (28:30.806) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (28:37.309) Yeah. Right. Well you Right. Coach Brian Parana (28:51.415) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (28:53.652) There's no jerks, man, on the show. We have different opinions and that happens every week. But it's truly a safe space and the men have taken to it, man. I think the vulnerability shows up in the stories that they share. Cause there's things — every time they share a story, they'd be like, you know what? I've never shared this with anybody before. Ever. It's my first time. They say that so often, I'm like, wow, okay, this is where they they go in they go in deep into the well, they're going deep into the closet to pull this thing out. And I hear that very often, almost on a weekly basis. Coach Brian Parana (28:55.467) Right. Coach Brian Parana (29:14.733) Wow. Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (29:19.457) Yeah. Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (29:23.666) And it tells me that you know these guys are open to the whole vulnerability piece. And we're breaking the narrative again with that because men aren't supposed to do that. It's not allowed, it's taboo. Shame on you if you do it. You know, but that's what they do every single week. I'm I'm so impressed by them because that that's what they're doing. And I think it's making an impact because every week I challenge them at the beginning of the show. What's changed? What's different? What's the takeaway? What have you applied? Coach Brian Parana (29:32.759) Right. Right. Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (29:51.403) And everybody has something different that they've done every single week, every time. I trust them to be honest about that. But there's been a vocalized change every single week. And the vulnerability piece has to be the start of it. I don't know what else to point to to say, you know what? I attribute the success of that to this. It's vulnerability, man. It has to be. Coach Brian Parana (30:5.889) Right. Right. Coach Brian Parana (30:11.937) Yeah, definitely. If if someone's walking into the arena, then it's a Theodore Roosevelt, I think, or Franklin Roosevelt. It's it's one of those guys, I think it's Franklin, but it's talked about the arena and being in the the the game. You're playing the game. Like we're in the arena of entrepreneurship. We are playing the game. Coach Brian Parana (30:39.697) And once you get into the arena, then the game changes. Or or comments or whatever. We're actually on the field doing the thing that is there. And as soon as someone then goes from the outside coming in, then they get a different perspective around what's happening, what life is actually looking like and in and and and the real engagement of it all. that that ends up being Coach Brian Parana (31:8.641) They they're open to being vulnerable, I believe. And I see that in my world. When people say, hey, I'm overweight. I need some health. I have bad blood panels. there's a number of health things that are going on with me. I need to change. I even had a guy join my Call to Rise program on Monday. And he's lost probably a thousand pounds in his life for 30 years. Yeah. He's been as low as 175. He's been as high as two sixty. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (31:31.740) my goodness, that's that's incredible. That's incredible. Coach Brian Parana (31:38.114) And he's gone up and down, up and down and up and down for decades. So I just asked him, hey, just gross estimate, like how much weight have you lost? It's like a thousand pounds or something. But he's still unhappy with where he's at and he's still not there. So we have to like figure out what this identity piece is of who he is and all. And I do a a pretty great job with coaching and and creating connection and vulnerability and openness because I create a safe space to allow for that. And then it Coach Brian Parana (32:5.289) It gets conversations talking. So I get to see men for a lot of different perspectives of these guys and how taking care of themselves ends up being a catalyst for improving other areas of their life so that they can be more open. They can change some of their their narratives that they just shed those narratives or and connect with other men. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (32:23.250) Mm-hmm. Coach Brian Parana (32:30.405) that that is something that of reason why I do to say, no, just like there's no one there there most of the guys that I ever work with and have for years don't have another Brian in their life. They don't have a health-driven leader in a sense that shows up and says, No, it's cool to take care of yourself, it's the right thing to do, and it's gonna benefit you in the long run and the people around you. Like they just don't have it because Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (32:42.238) Hmm. Coach Brian Parana (32:57.065) of who they surround themselves with. And and that's that's important because if you don't have if you're not surrounded by a Mista Yu or a Brian, a Coach Brian or something, then it's very easy to just get lost in the shuffle of everyday life. And and that's just not it. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (33:14.266) yeah, for sure. I think that quote I think it's by Teddy Roosevelt. It's a long quote, but think I think the gist of it is that the critics are not the ones that count. I guess it's the ones who are actually in the arena. Which I think is what you're what you're saying, man. So that's awesome stuff, yeah. That's that's definitely factual for us, for sure. Gotta be in the fight, man. Coach Brian Parana (33:18.476) Yeah. Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (33:32.696) Yeah. Most yeah, most yeah, we have to and and when you are in the arena, you can't allow anyone that's not in the arena to tear you down or throw stones at you and because that does happen, right? And and you even said you protect the space as as best you can so that that's just not welcome, it's not allowed, it's not tolerated, and then that helps with the vulnerability and the openness to actually move the needle in these guys' lives. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (33:45.063) yeah. Coach Brian Parana (34:1.537) to open up and be more forthcoming and start to to change things. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (34:6.894) Yeah, I I I I lo I love what's going on. I I I've been implementing a lot of different ideas with the show and I think they have a deeper value than what it might look like on the surface. They th this there's two there's two forces that play with our men's round table. The guys that are on stage and the guys that are in the chat. I try I try I try to let the guys know all the time said just because you're in the chat doesn't mean you're not relevant because the guys in the chat Coach Brian Parana (34:27.308) Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (34:34.888) drive our conversations every single week. The question they ask, the things that they share, if they show up, absolutely, they drive the conversation. Cause sometimes we have to pivot because of a comment or a question that somebody's putting out there or somebody that's moderating in the chat. And it makes it makes the show come alive. It it brings us closer to the people that are actually watching and listening. So we get we're hearing from the people directly. So that chat is of major importance to me. I don't diminish it at all. I want the guys to understand. Coach Brian Parana (34:36.589) Of course. If they show up, yeah. Coach Brian Parana (34:45.165) Right. Coach Brian Parana (34:54.337) Yeah. Right. Coach Brian Parana (35:1.837) Yeah. They're in their arena too. Yeah. You can only have so many people on the show before it becomes this this is like talking at each other in a sense, right? So Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (35:4.251) Exactly. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (35:8.338) Yeah. We started we we started like that. We like ten, eleven guys at a time. I'm like, wow, we can't do this anymore. So now — yeah. It took us an hour and a half to finish a few thoughts. So we had addressed that, but we we're good now, we we got it better now. But the chat because guys are coming in, they don't they won't say anything, they they're watching listening, but they won't say anything. And those questions, those comments, the poll questions it's impacting. I'm hearing the testimonies later on like Coach Brian Parana (35:15.467) Yeah, it's too hard, right? No one actually Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (35:37.470) The guys was watching, listening, they were in the chat, didn't say anything, didn't ask a question, didn't throw their hand up and and they were and they got something out of it that was impactful for them. So I'm like, Yeah, we we got this is beautiful. It's it's a beautiful thing. Coach Brian Parana (35:54.730) Everyone has lived experience and has value that they can add to someone else that has not lived those that that same experience. So there's value in every human on the earth and that's why you should be you, because everyone needs a you in a sense. And when we when we show up in our authentic self as much as we can, then we can add real value to the people closest to us and then start it rippling out to others, most definitely. Coach Brian Parana (36:21.791) Speaking of change, right? So you're putting this on for change. Let's talk about some stories of change and then maybe we can talk about what are some of the initiators of like the coaching and and the impact of you having in people's lives or and and what helps actually start to facilitate some of these things you talked about about shedding the narrative, being vulnerable and stuff, but what what Coach Brian Parana (36:47.057) Is what are some of the things that you've seen as like testimony, testament to the men's round table and guys being more open? Like do you have a story or two that just jumps out and just like, yeah, this is this was this guy was a a closed box, wrapped up, dropped into the bottom of the ocean, locked and and never to come out. And then we we get them to to really open up. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (37:12.210) Yeah, I had a guy that was essentially I don't want to give any identifiers out about him, but I would just say that I would say that he was from the the John Wayne era of manhood. And he came in with that, it was as staunch as you can imagine. Everybody in his life has just accepted that as the thing. And when he would come on the show, we would Coach Brian Parana (37:18.569) Of course. Coach Brian Parana (37:24.531) Okay. Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (37:41.631) We would have battles and not purposely like boom, boom, boom, but it's kind of just like, you know, I would have to push back on most of what he said. I'd be like, I can't let that be the accepted practice for people who are watching and listening. So I can't I can't let it happen. I have to I have to be a voice for the other side of it. Not devil's advocate, because I won't advocate for the devil, but I have to make sure that we have both sides of this thing rolling. So we would do that. We did that for I don't know how many months. We were a monthly show at first. Coach Brian Parana (37:54.797) Right. Coach Brian Parana (37:59.384) Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (38:9.950) We did that for like about six or seven months of that. And before, you know, well, at the end, if you will, the man was on screen, eyes sweating, talking about his his the reality that you know what, what he's been doing, he can't continue to keep doing it. He has to pivot, he has to adjust. And those are big things for him to say. It was huge for him. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (38:39.336) He was a poster child for what the men's round table can do. And that's just one of many stories, man. He's a a different person today, man. And I'm giving God the credit. I ain't taking no credit for it. But I honestly feel like the platform — I feel like it hit. Yeah. Out of his own mouth, I think I think he said that you know what? I look forward just every week on Thursday nights at 7 p.m. I need this. Coach Brian Parana (38:43.159) Right. Coach Brian Parana (38:50.407) Of course, right. Yeah, you're you're facilitating the t the the opportunity. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (39:5.276) I need to be around this, it's helping me grow. Iron sharpens iron, you know, all of the adages you can come up with. And he was just a staunch advocate for what we were doing. And I'm like, wow, that's a big departure from the John Wayne guy who said, I ain't vulnerable, I ain't opening up, I'm not crying, I'm not sharing anything. He was saying all those things stubbornly, [unclear]. And then look what happened. So yeah, huge. Coach Brian Parana (39:9.483) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (39:14.455) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (39:25.601) Yeah. Right. Right. All right. Nice, nice. Yeah. Sometimes we have a big hardened shell that protects us from and it's been we've done that to ourselves as a result of the environment that we've been in. And it takes a lot of different opportunities and whatnot to be able to shed that that that shell that we have put around ourselves to Coach Brian Parana (39:55.470) Protect yourself and and and be open. So that's that's really cool. Well let's go into the say the coaching side or the actual conversation of the change. What are some of the ways that you help facilitate change? For for me, facilitating change in a guy's life, especially around in the health thing, educating them around what nutrition actually is. Like this is how you actually really eat food. This is what it's in the food that you eat. This is the type that you have to balance and portion and and Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (39:55.910) yeah. Definitely. Coach Brian Parana (40:23.041) This is how we move our bodies and this is how we take care of ourselves. And this is what it should look like pretty much every day. And then I have to keep reminding them of those basic things that that that help them. And that's how I start to facilitate the change that happens over weeks, right? Because you say we need to lose 20 pounds. That's a 10 to 20 pound, 20 week effort to lose that much weight. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (40:46.622) Mm, yeah. Coach Brian Parana (40:46.943) In a sense, based on an individual's life, their circumstances, metabolism, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff. But for for you, how do you s help facilitate change? Like are there the skills, education, tools that you use that that really get someone to open up and to to start shedding the narrative, being open, vulnerable, all these things. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (41:12.008) Yeah, we definitely have a pathway, a multi-step pathway to this, a framework that I built for this. I spent a lot of time asking a lot of questions. And I know it almost sounds like an interrogation at times, but I really felt like that's been the most valuable because I I what what people give you isn't always what's actually going on. So the question. Coach Brian Parana (41:24.694) Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (41:28.379) Yeah, me too. Coach Brian Parana (41:39.731) How yeah, yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (41:41.001) The questions are just are designed to drill down. Here's an example I try to use for people who may not understand our process. When you're when you're when your kid, whichever one it could be the boy, the girl, doesn't matter, same premise. And everything, everything that you say, they say why to it. Three whys, five whys, ten whys. By by eight, by eight or ten whys, you're frustrated at this point, and and your and your next answer is gonna be because I said so. But actually, Coach Brian Parana (41:57.674) Yeah, yeah. Eight whys in. Yep. Yeah. Uh-huh. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (42:10.632) the more they drill down, we get down to the real reason why you don't want them to do whatever X or Y or Z is. And I want to get down to what the problem is because we can we can sit there for six months and I try to elongate the relationship in the sessions, but I don't want to do that. I want to actually I would actually have you walk away with help that you can see a tangible change, a result, an outcome. And and only way for me to do that Coach Brian Parana (42:15.735) Right. Right. Right. Coach Brian Parana (42:30.455) Yeah, no. Coach Brian Parana (42:35.189) Right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (42:39.494) Is to get all the questions out on the front end. Why are we here? Because what they give you initially in a questionnaire or or whatever isn't always the thing. I want to find out what's the thing. People give you symptoms sometimes when you're coaching them. No, I want the root cause. Why why are you sneezing? What are you allergic to? I want to find out what's going on at the core. Coach Brian Parana (42:55.169) Yeah. yeah. Yeah. Here's the Band Aid response. Coach Brian Parana (43:4.330) Mm-hmm. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (43:5.086) So I ask lot of questions on the front end because it's just my practice. I'm not gonna say this is revolutionary or magical. I'm not saying that stuff. I can't compare it to anything. I don't watch anybody else's work. All I was saying is that what I do in the front end is I drill down as much as I can so we can find out this is where we're gonna start from. This is the area where yeah. Coach Brian Parana (43:8.090) I agree. No. Coach Brian Parana (43:13.847) Right. Coach Brian Parana (43:20.225) Right. Who's this person? Right. Where are they at? What gaps do we need to start closing and how we do it in the easiest, next, best step? That's usually what I think. Yep. Yep. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (43:25.748) Yeah. Identity, habits. I I want to find out what what what am I working with? Because I want to know because I'll I'm happy to turn somebody down if it if it's not a fit. If it doesn't work, I'm like, I would invest nine, twelve months of my life away from my family and other ventures if you don't want to really do anything. So I I need to understand that from up front. So I need to make sure that we are in a mutually beneficial relationship where both of us have the the same end goal in mind and we're on the same page. Coach Brian Parana (43:45.067) Yeah, yeah. Coach Brian Parana (43:49.579) Right. Coach Brian Parana (43:55.873) Right, right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (43:56.021) I gotta find out up front. So the mystery part of my practice is a lot of questions. It's extensive, it's intensive, it's both of those put together. I gotta understand before we move on to the framework and pathways. Yeah. Coach Brian Parana (44:2.409) Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Agreed. You you want friction in the beginning part of the process to then get to the people who work through all of that to then actually accept the the responsibility. Same thing on my end is is, you know, go listen to a couple of podcasts. go look through my website. Go look through testimonial Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (44:18.442) Yeah, absolutely. Coach Brian Parana (44:28.087) Conversations I've had. Then we're gonna talk for 30 plus minutes. I'm gonna ask you a lot of questions to see where you're at. And then we start to then like, this does make a lot of sense. I can actually help you. I don't want your money. I want value, right? I want you to get the results that you're looking for. And then I get a happy client to work with. And and then money is just the default of the exchange of energy in in this for the coaching, in a sense, but they get the result that they wanted, which was in. Coach Brian Parana (44:55.125) Majority of the cases, they want to never have to worry about what foods they're eating and never have to worry about if the scale is going to go back up again. They lose the weight and they're able to keep it off. So definitely. Excellent. Excellent. Now, so you're you're doing it Thursday nights, 7 PM. You've been on where are we at? We've got it on YouTube. We've got it. Where else we have it? Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (45:3.152) Yeah. Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (45:18.762) We got it on Facebook. I'm staying with those two for now. I had it everywhere on social, but I felt like I was spreading myself too thin in places that I didn't feel great about investing in. So right now, I mean you you can you can go there and find old clips, but from from right now, YouTube and Facebook is all that I'm trying to accomplish. So that's where you can find everything. I do a men's round table series spotlight every single Thursday, all day long. So these one on one, like Coach Brian Parana (45:26.765) Sure. Coach Brian Parana (45:29.389) Keep up with right. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (45:47.327) How we're doing right now. I have those all day long, every Thursday. The round table is just the one that we do in the evening at 7 PM. so that's the that's kind of the format. the spotlights are usually 15, 20 minutes. This round table could be an hour and a half. It depends on how we how we're flowing. But YouTube and Facebook right now is where we are. And hopefully my website will be fixed — well, made — at some point in time, because I would love to leverage that as well, but we're not there yet. Coach Brian Parana (45:50.528) yeah. Coach Brian Parana (45:59.332) Yep. Coach Brian Parana (46:4.024) Right, right. Coach Brian Parana (46:7.755) Okay. Yeah. We'll have that. Coach Brian Parana (46:15.834) Right. I'm looking at our conversation. July thirtieth it was released. So just a little bit ago, a couple of days ago. The the spotlight, the men's round table series spotlight exposed the high performance lie with Coach Brian Parana. So very cool to see myself there. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (46:17.106) It's in the future. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (46:23.643) Absolutely, man. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (46:31.272) Yeah, man. I love the kind of reaction it's getting too, which is a good thing. Coach Brian Parana (46:36.971) Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely, definitely. And and the collaboration that's coming. It's great. all right. So we got you on those two places. What are some as we wrap up, what are some guidance that you could bestow upon the guy that's still listening to us talk about being open, being vulnerable, creating trust in themselves a lot, most importantly, and then being able to open up to to trust others. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (47:7.016) I say this with all with all humility 'cause I know that it's just not easy, especially for folks who have been damaged and they've been broken. But I would ask them this this question. If you didn't change anything, Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (47:23.016) What would it look like five, 10, 15 years down the line? What would it look like if you didn't change anything? If you just say, you know what, I'm gonna stick to what I'm doing right now, how would it look? How would your marriage look? How would your relationship with your kids look? How would your view of your own self-esteem look? How would it look? If you could say, you know what, it wouldn't look good, send somebody a message. Send Coach Brian a message, send me a message. Don't worry about my website not being up. Don't worry about. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (47:52.767) Me not having a million followers, or same for Coach Brian — send us a message. Let's start the conversation. Because that could be literally your lifeline. Because I've been in that place where, you know, the bottle of pills looks better than my reality. So I get what happens. But if I had somebody to reach out to, it probably wouldn't have been going on as long as it did. So I I would just say, you know, ask yourself that question. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (48:22.216) And then reach out. Email, private message, text, phone call, snail mail, whatever you use. Use it. Send the carrier pigeon. Do something with somebody that you you feel like you know what? They have something that might be able to be of help to me. Even if you can't verify it fully, if you think it might be some some sort of assistance, especially in this scenario with Coach Brian or myself, or both, reach out. Coach Brian Parana (48:29.951) Right. Send smoke signals. Send a pigeon. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (48:50.608) I believe it's going to be of of great benefit because you won't be alone and you have somebody who is willing to listen to what you have to say and hear your voice. And I think as men, we just want to be known. We want to be recognized for what we do. So and who we are. Coach Brian Parana (49:6.945) Yeah, I totally agree with that. so the men's round table Coach Brian Parana (49:11.905) By Mista Yu. He brings a lot of really good insight today. And that's why I wanted to have him on. We talked about a couple of things that were important. We got father wounds. We got men to men connection. We've got blended families. We've got a lot of things that are going on with men in real time and for generations that we have to work through. And some of the powerful things that we find on his series and shows and the conversations that he has every day is shedding the narrative. And what is the impact of that gonna have on the people around us? Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (49:18.058) Thank you, sir. Coach Brian Parana (49:41.815) To get out of isolation and even depression, not even just from as we said, the padded white room, but of just not showing up as yourself. Having lower energy is depression. And doing behaviors such as being a workaholic can be a sign and a symptom of you being depressed and not actually living a life that you are excited about or living in anticipation. Coach Brian Parana (50:8.065) But ultimately it comes down to trust and vulnerability and finding people, men closer to you and creating those relationships or even creating the opportunities, like he just said, of opening up a conversation so that you can then share connection with someone and at least start moving in the direction because awareness is the first step for you to move forward. And then you can start to say get into the arena, get into the game. Coach Brian Parana (50:32.741) Of of life and start playing it in a much better way than you are. And you don't have to John Wayne it in a sense. you can be your authentic self and have feelings and share those with people and be open because your life will be that much more rewarding as a result. So wrapping up with our conversation here, driven for health. I want to thank you. His information will be down in the show notes, as well as mine. If if you need some help with health. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (50:49.823) Yeah. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (50:57.162) Thank you, sir. Coach Brian Parana (51:2.809) dropping some weight, overcoming chronic illness. That's what the call to rise is. We can set you up there. And both he and I are about implementation of information and action. You have to implement, you have to move, take steps forward to get the change that you want in your life. That's it for this episode. Thank you so much. Appreciate you. Appreciate you listening in, and off we go. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (51:24.554) Yes. Mista Yu (Yusef Marshall) (51:30.570) Thank you, sir.