Men Don’t Have to Go It Alone | How to Break Isolation & Build Real Community - 16
In this episode of Driven For Health, Coach Brian Parana talks with Curt Hampton, a men’s relationship and emotional wellness coach, about why men over 40 often feel isolated even when they are surrounded by people.
Coach Brian and Curt discuss the pressure many men carry from work, family, marriage, parenting, business, health, and daily responsibilities. They explain how men can fall into the lone wolf pattern, where they handle everything alone, keep conversations surface-level, and avoid real connection with other men.
This episode covers male friendship, trust, emotional wellness, relationship stress, busy minds, loneliness, values, vulnerability, gym communities, social risk, and how men can start building stronger relationships through simple conversations and shared activities.
This is a strong episode for men over 40 who feel disconnected, stressed, isolated, or stuck trying to manage life alone and want to build better health, better relationships, and a stronger support system.
Men who do this one thing are far less successful then those who do it.
In this episode of Driven For Health, Coach Brian sits down with Curt Hampton, a men’s relationship and emotional wellness coach out of Dallas. They talk about the silent struggles many men face behind their success.
They break down why men suffer in isolation, how the “busy mind” keeps us stressed and disconnected, and what to do when health and relationships start to fall apart at the same time.
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- Why trust and connection are vital to leadership and longevity
- Simple steps to build real male friendships again
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- Welcome back to Driven for Health. I'm Coach Brian Piranha. You like the fish. If you're a man in your 40s juggling work, family, kids, your own health, the responsibilities of ownership, all the things, today's conversation is for you. I'm joined today by Curt Hampton out of Dallas, a men's relationship and emotional wellness coach who helps guys build real connection, communicate with conviction, and show up better at home and at work for themselves and the people closest to them. We met on Instagram. We had a
- couple DMs. We actually got on a phone call and realized we were seeing the same thing just from two different angles. And today men carry a lot. They don't want to admit it, but there's a lot on their shoulders that they are bearing. And when it comes to health, if you're not in peak shape there, then your relationships are going to feel it, right? Think of your spouse.
- If you're overweight and out of shape, it might be wearing on the relationships around you. And vice versa, if your relationships aren't in good standings with your partner, your family, your spouse, your work relationships, then your health is going to be in the gutter, for lack of better terms. You will be stressed.
- In this episode, we break down the behaviors that keep good men stuck. We talk about the busy mind that won't shut off at 2 am. The things that wake you up in the middle of night and keep you up. Those things. So many of us are running lone wolf. Meaning it just feels like you are all alone. How to rebuild trust with other men.
- Yes, male relationships is very important in adulthood. and a simple way to turn surface talk into real connection and communication with others. We will leave you with practical advice, tips, tricks, and reps for you to start working at it today. Like where to find your people. Yeah, you have people out there and you want to find them because your relationships are your net worth in a sense, not more than just monetarily.
- How to open up conversation. How to use your values to set better boundaries at work, around food, around your time, around your relationships. Stick around to the end for a quick action checklist. Let's get into it with Kurt Hampton. Who are you? Yeah, Kurt Hampton. Um, out of Dallas, Texas. I am Hampton Counseling.
- I work with men with relationship and emotional wellness issues. Um, I like to call it relational intimacy. Um, I think it's a buzz phrase out there in my industry. But yeah, I love building our men up to feel more competent to walk into those relationships better and just perform well even in that arena. >> Oh, that's awesome. I see it.
- Men are suffering on some level. I'm in my 40s. I feel disconnection with other men in my space as well. If I look around to any other guy that's in my age range, we're all dealing with the responsibilities that have stacked up in our lives from our work responsibilities, our family responsibilities, and that is a big challenge to overcome, especially taking care of yourself, whether it's on the more relationship side and emotional side with what Kurt manages really, really well, or on a health perspective in a sense. Either way, they they
- intersect in a way that makes a man less than if they're not managing these pieces in their lives. A good day could easily go off the hinges, off the rails, so to speak, if an emotionally challenged or charged situation comes up, they make [clears throat] maybe they say something they shouldn't have or they eat something they shouldn't have.
- Then all of a sudden the day went from sunshine and rainbows to a dark stormy cloud overhead. And one of the things that we really talked about even before we just jumped on this recording was we found that behaviors were a big undertoe on where we found a lot of men overlapping in some of these challenges in their lives.
- and and I'd love for you to share some of what you find in your space or men around these behaviors. >> You said a word connected ago and that jumps out at me because that's a big I won't call it a problem, but it's an issue how not wellconed we are. We're around each other for sure, right? I got access to each other and we work with other men and you know we go to the gym with other men all of that stuff.
- But in terms of truly connecting and sharing our experience, I'm seeing a lot of trouble in that area, right? And leads out into other areas of our lives as we're trying to manage our family, manage ourselves, manage our business, all the things. Um but we're kind of lone rangering it out there, right? >> I I personally can attest.
- I've been called a lone ranger before. Lone wolf is the the terminology. Brian, you're out on your own doing your thing. And I have is in business is where I got called out on that. And in the relationship that was I saw what was happening with the business and my business partner didn't necessarily see that and I was taking corrective actions to make sure that people were coming to the gym.
- If we have no new leads and people leave the door, basic math says we're gonna run out of money here if we don't have some sort of a lead generation, a find a new client type person and find that lone wolf. And the the one one component that might fall into this and you can back it up if you think so is is trust. finding other men that you can trust that what you say can be between that person and you and not just you get spread around town in a sense especially if in my world everyone's remote but in your world I don't I don't think that's true is it no
- no uh lots of face to face time >> yeah I prefer that most of the men that I work with prefer that too of course some of them in other states so it's not really possible but yeah that face to face interaction And we're still recovering toward that, right? Yep. >> Sinceic. Yeah. >> Think about that. >> I think a lot of people are recovering well at this point five years later.
- But it's still a recovery process as all the businesses haven't gone back to the office and we've been introduced to new ways to doing life virtually. >> Right. >> It's it's still a recovering process, I think. Right. Right. Well, even we connected through social media. I saw what you did and I resonated with it and I said, "Hey, thanks for following.
- I see you work with men. So do I." And then we ended up getting on a call. Let's talk and see if there's in some sort of a collaboration. And so we had built this trust up of seeing that we're like-minded. Then we had a great conversation introducing ourselves to each other. And so there's inch and trust and hey, how about we turn this into something and here we are everyone.
- So because Kurt followed me on Instagram, we're we're going to try and add value to your life. So >> excellent. So what behaviors go ahead? >> Well, that that brings another thought to mind. I love the way that we were able to connect. But what allowed that to happen was wherever you are and wherever I am and just kind of my health and your health right now, it allowed us to want to take that risk. Yes.
- >> And connect with each other. Right. And that's another piece that's kind of missing is that fear of taking risk, especially with connecting with another man, right? just cuz whole >> circus of ideas and thoughts that kind of keep us back from >> men are macho. You you you cry a tear if your mom dies and that's about it, right? >> That's Yeah, exactly.
- >> Yeah. And you should have a tattoo on your shoulder of some animal like a bald eagle or something, right? [laughter] >> Yes. >> In fact, now >> let me roll that up right here. So, what are some of the behaviors that you see showing up in the men that you work with so that we can help some other men that are listening to this start to identify, okay, yeah, I see what's going on here.
- >> Yeah. So I I feel the range of men that I get to to work with and and sit with um day in and day out is from a range of a really high achiever, very successful all the way across to the guy who feels he's just kind of comfortable in his, you know, he's he's made a career for himself or has a job, right? and he's just comfortable and doesn't need to, you know, fight for anything more or higher than that and >> complacency. Okay.
- Like it's just this spectrum of engagement, right? And some of the behaviors that I'm seeing on both ends of that spectrum is human engagement and relational engagement or lack of, right? And so it looks different and it shows up different depending on, you know, the personality, temperament. Could you share a quick story on each to help our our viewer identify a little bit more with where they're at? >> Uh yeah, for sure.
- So, um I'll tell a story of a guy Nathan, right? >> May or may not be his real name. >> Super successful, built a great ministry, has a healthy big family, great marriage, and at the same time struggles a whole lot with just having a busy mind. Right. >> Oh, yeah. um super fit, still has taken very good care of himself, eats well most of the time.
- So all all of that looking at, you know, fitness and nutrition and all of that stuff, like he's doing it right. Um career is good and at the same time there's just a whole lot going on in here that's affecting the rest of it, right? Anding all of this. And so, um, work work with a a man like that is pulling attention to, okay, how do you balance using your busy mind as a superpower when you need >> and being able to manage it or contain it when you don't need it, right? So that you can >> shut it down at midnight or at 2 in the morning.
- >> Totally. Totally. I wake up and all of a sudden my mind's roaming and I'm going to have a meal too. And yeah, that's not that's not the time you should be using your brain or your your mouth. >> Yeah. And then, you know, going to not necessarily an extreme, but a different example is um we'll call him Ben.
- Um guy very comfortable in his life. Um he uh reports that he's happy and satisfied and at the same time the story is full of dissatisfaction just in terms of connection with his partner feeling ill equipped to parent well but also super disconnected, right? Super disconnect from like literally reports that he's got no friends, right? interaction with people at the office but no friends, right? So within both of those examples, even though very different issues, um I want to kind of go into their value system, right? Which I tell my guys all
- the time, all of us know we have values. All of us know that there are things that are important to us, but there's no institution in life that has taught us how to identify and articulate our core values to ourselves first, >> right? And then also to the people around us. And I feel like that's paramount because >> 100%.
- >> Yeah. Our values inform everything. What we like, what we don't like, who we want to be close to, who we are, you know, >> all of that. And so if I don't understand that about myself, then there's a whole lot of life navigation that I don't understand why or how we're doing it. Right. >> Yeah.
- A simple analogy is we're we're floating out in the ocean with the sailboat and either the sail's not even up, just letting the tide take us, or the sail is up, but letting the wind just blow us wherever it will. And I've used that analogy a lot with some of my guys as well. Two things that you said that that uh that resonated with me were managing the the busy mind.
- Often times men don't express these things. Uh even me guilty is charged to say my wife Amber high school married my high school sweetheart. We've been married for 19 years. I have four kids. So life is crazy busy. There's always things. Communication is so paramount and I constantly get it wrong or we don't connect but often times I don't say a lot but my mind is racing.
- I've got this checklist of all these things and my schedule is running in my head and I have to do this and that and the other and when am I going to do the things that I need for myself and how do I prioritize what's important, what's not and the list goes on and it goes real fast too just like that. And so that's so important to I think both of us probably do a really good job of creating space for the person on the other end of our conversations to slow down.
- Let's think through prioritize when do certain things to need to be done to elicit the response that we're looking for as your underlying goals and takeaway from our engagement in the first place. That's so critical to be able to manage that. And I think we both probably do a really good job with it. The second one is the value system.
- And the first thing that came to mind is is we learn through parenting. Whatever our parents did or didn't do, and they learn based on whatever their parents did or didn't do. And then all the the the external inputs that constantly come to us. Are you parenting right? Are you not? Are you a helicopter parent? Are you not? Are you just letting your kids, you know, smoke and and do drugs at 15 or something or whatever and and or or not? And what's the responsibility of that? And and trying to understand what actual parent is for you and what's
- correct and best for you and your kids. And then also how you co-parent. For me, I'm in a relationship. I have to co-parent with my spouse and understand what the values are in our household from a hierarchy to then be able to put into that that that's a ladder of responsibility or parenting style there. So, there's that.
- And then the last one that I [clears throat] would say that that stuck out with our conversation and trust in men parents divorced when I was young, when I was 13 or so, 12. My dad, I saw him every other week and and he participated. But as the older I got and [clears throat] more into college, the less our engagements became, especially afterwards when I'm a working valued member of society didn't his inputs were far and few in between.
- So that that parenting that father figure in my life hasn't been there. and finding a male figure period has been a little bit of a challenge at certain times of my life in my late 20s when I was starting a business or even starting my family in my my first son was born in when I was 26 that was a critical time that I could have used my father and the the just the conversations that I missed in that place so going to trusting men in general or even having close connection with them because I'm an entrepreneur I've run my own business. I have four
- kids. I have this much time to do any type of socializing. But >> yeah, >> I found four guys that Leo and Dan were from high school running. We ran together and we still communicate even I sent them a silly gift or a video or something to just keep that line going there. But Chris Chris and I in this gym space here that we work out for Jul it was May 8th 2023 was our broversary his daughter and my daughter went to the fatherdaughter dance and we saw each other the year prior but then we saw each other again we're like hey let's
- have coffee and then coffee turned into hey do you want to come work out in my barn because he wasn't taking care of himself and all of a sudden he's been coming basically three or four times a week but his office is half a mile down from my house. So, it's crazy convenient for him and I both and he has four kids and Dan has four kids and Leo has between his marriage and all is there's four or five kids there.
- And then >> Andy enters in and he's more of a recent relationship with a my middle school kids and with Maxwell particular. He's my third son. [snorts] But Andy and I run and Andy owns his own organization and nonprofit that's called Project Outrun and it helps kids outrun cancer and get some some sweet said the motto is I I'm not sick but my shoes are.
- So he gets these real like Nike ID type to help empower these kids. But the point being is I found these four guys through fitness, through taking care of finding an the attraction there of of self-improvement was of that nature. And that's where I found connection with people. Now for for you and and your men, how do you get them to connect and start to break some of these patterns and behaviors that have caught them staying stuck? >> So, uh that is the question of the hour.
- >> How to get men to connect. No, honestly, it it starts with a conversation about, okay, let's look at your life and let's look at what and where you interact with on a routine basis, right? Like where do you go? Do you go to the grocery store? Do you go to the gym? Do you work? Blah blah blah.
- Like where do you even go where there are people available for you to connect with? As basic as that sounds, like that's where the conversation starts. just to start like jogging the thoughts of who in the world do I even have access to, right? And then of course the advancement of that conversation is all right, let's practice how to engage someone like is it >> that's that's foreign when it comes to men, right? >> Oh my gosh. Yeah.
- Yeah. I think we're getting better but we're not there yet. But yeah, like literally I like to roleplay with men. how to start a conversation, you know, how to how to continue that conversation because like we can, you know, give each other the the nod, but then like how do we go beyond that >> or or how's the weather today or those top level surface conversations? How do we get a couple layers deeper? >> Exactly. Yeah.
- And going back to what you said earlier in terms of that that trust piece, do I trust this person enough to to want to connect with them? >> And I would also add this element. Do I trust the benefit of connection >> to even put in the work to do this? Like cuz I feel like I'm fine, you know? I I mean, maybe I could, you know, have a bro to drink with or have a bro bro to work out with or go run with or whatever, but for the most part, I'm fine.
- And it's getting it's kind of coming back to that that idea of values, right? To get this person to realize, okay, am I really satisfied with the level of connection that I have, with the level of community that I have? >> Right? And coming back to what your core values are, I think can inform that for you and help you think through that a little better.
- >> Yeah. Uh 100% agree with you on all of that. Finding people to connect with even in when I'm say fitness or health, finding a gym could be if if you want to lose weight, the easiest way to connect with someone be at the gym. Whether you're a Arnold Schwarzenegger wannabe or you hate going in there, we can find other avenues as well.
- Certain Meetup groups, maybe you need to go on a hike, go get into a hiking group and or a running group. And it doesn't have to be the fastest person, but we have to start opening up those conversations with the guys to be open to going there and start breaking some of those patterns, behaviors of staying stuck because that's a choice.
- in my life in line of work every your body is a reflection of what's happening on the inside. And if if you're overweight and and you're not taking care of yourself and you're not eating vegetables, not drinking water, not moving your body, then we have to break those patterns and a pattern interruption of going to a hiking group or going to the gym and then start connecting and and growing a relationship is is really important.
- One of my first entrepreneurial journeys was opening a gym. We ended up growing the gym to about 300 people. The community aspect was why people came. They came as is their third home. That was literally what was part of our mission statement in a sense of as we were building this. We want this to be their third home where they connect with other members and they grow and they push each other and they're encouraged through activity and movement.
- And that was 300 members a month of of of membership. So it was like and our the the space that we worked out of was not very big. So it was come in and we just hit it and had a great time. We all stinky and sweaty and but the the bonding especially afterwards and spending time and I think that might be something too is the the behavior around how you spend your time because people would come to a time frame in the gym.
- They'd work out together and they'd push through hard workouts, not crazy hard, but they were gonna do this thing this many times and this thing and next thing you know, an hour later like, "Oh my gosh." session, but then you stayed after and you had actual real conversations and that those were the opportunities where you're able to what Kurt's saying is break through that top layer conversation to actually develop relationships with someone that you could then grow in time to be connected and find that trust in that relationship and be able to be more open
- and honest. And that's where I think true connection is through au authenticity is through becoming a better human in general is having these social aspects and we're connecting via technology but we we could hang out and we could talk shop about what we do if I was down the road from you like I can see that happening and but and that's even in a short amount of time because say the magnetic energy the connection of what we do for a living is what has has gotten this to where it's at right now. So far so good.
- >> Yeah, I agree. I agree. I thought comes to mind as you say all that and being in the gym doing challenging things that happen in a gym, especially what it what it sounds like the atmosphere of you guys was, you know, the gym that you're talking about, like you're doing these things and a lot of it needs to be done together, right? >> Yeah.
- That's a really that's already a pretty vulnerable situation because I am allowing this other person to see my strength or lack of strength. Right. >> Right. to support me or encourage me receive their support and encou or making a choice to receive. Right. Right. And so I feel like that is a fantastic opportunity to build on. Right.
- Because like we've already done something that's decently vulnerable in allowing this other person, this other human being to see my strength or my to see me strugg basically. Right. >> Right. Yeah. Struggle to open up. And that's what I see with my relationships. I'll just interject real quick is because we bond through exercise, we work out together, we spend time in close quarters in this barn here and we work through things and it allows us conversation to be vulnerable to talk about some of the challenges that are coming up because everyone has
- challenges is the human existence and if you don't have challenges you're lying to yourself. So [laughter] continue. >> Yeah. Then uh then then you come see me and you talk about different things. >> Yeah. No, I I I love that. I I don't know that I've thought about it in terms of how it's just coming to me now, but just specifically in the arena of if a gym atmosphere or, you know, CrossFit or whatever it is, if I'm already in a situation like that, like I'm already primed to connect even deeper with those. Right.
- >> Yeah. And I love that. I love that. >> Ann and Leo are high school running buddies. Freshman year we ran track together and we still talk to this day. What I don't want to age myself, I already told you how old I am. They were I got a notification. I got invited to the anniversary of graduating class.
- So I was like, "Oh jeez, one 27 years ago or something, we ran together and we still have a bond. We actually in November we spent time at a hockey game. We had some tacos and just acted like we were still in high school. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> When we hung out together. >> So, tell me this. So, I'm intrigued by why why that connection is a value for you or when you realized that that was a value for you that that that bond, that connection, those relationships.
- When did you realize, okay, this is something that's important to me and realizing the level of importance now? So I am going to invest in this. Do you >> right >> remember kind of when that clicked for you or was it just kind of a progression? >> Definitely a progression or time, right? Because you you only get to that level through sheer value of reps and sets and and those are conversations.
- Those are chunks of time that you spend with someone and and being able to be open and and vulnerable. Well, we the Dan and and Leo conversations continue to stay. They're built around just joking around. >> Dan's the king of oneliners. Leo is say the oddball. He's the one that comes up with these really unique interesting ideas and stuff. I threw one out.
- I was like, "Hey guys, next time our kids I found this video on online and shared with them. Next time our kids are have gone through another school year, so next June, let's set up a rock band setup and play schools out for summer when they pull up to the house and just act like just just silly high schoolers, right? So there is that.
- I see Dan pretty regularly. He's super busy with four kids and his job and all that. And so he comes about once a week. Then we have a Chris. Leo Leo's a busy he's got his own thing. So we we have to connect. We actually have to make intention to connect. Chris because of proximity makes it a lot easier.
- He's a half mile down the road with his office. So it's hey we're going to connect in the middle of the day to work out. With Chris we kept overlapping. I've overlapped with this guy for 20 years. He's seen my entrepreneurial journey from afar and now he sees it a lot closer. But we just had this good connection and therefore when we got we did the invite for coffee and we started talking there's that relatability because we were we went from layer one to layer two and then all there's there's more connection.
- Not all relationships are going to do that. You only need what one two three good relationships in your life anyways. And if you have those and can lean on them properly, then therefore you can be more whole. Whether whole is my world at a healthy body weight, full of energy and and clicking on all cylinders in a sense on your end, being more emotionally available or being relationally available to those closest to you, whether it's a partner, spouse, or a friend.
- I think those are so we got to that next layer down. And then Andy just again going off those four close male friends, the running, we run together. But then because he does this project for cancer kids and has a movement and I do what I do, which is a movement to help men empower themselves around taking better care of themselves to be better husbands, fathers, men.
- We we we we bond real fast because of those. and we're super busy. So, we have really small amounts of time, but we both have stepped toward each other in that relationship to make time to run, even if it's only just once a week. But I made a a a lead magnet and I said, "Hey, can you check this out?" And he's like, "Sure, man. Send it over.
- " And so, he's going to take a peek at it and give me some feedback on it. And I can trust his feedback because of our relationship. >> I love that. I love that. So going back to uh the two examples that I brought at the beginning of this conversation, like I kind of want to weave that into this this part of the conversation.
- So what you just described, you knew that staying connected to those men was important to you as a progression, right? So let's say that's not my story, right? Like I didn't have that and I didn't experience that progression. And at the same time, I find myself in a place in life right now where I would like connections like that.
- And so there's still something to be done about that, right? And then that comes back to realizing, okay, yeah, this is a value for me. This is important to me. And so what can I do about it? Right? I don't I don't belong to a gym or I don't, you know, I'm not involved in anything civic, you know, blah blah blah, right? Unless you live in a super duper remote place, which some of you might, there are probably some options, right? Probably you got to make the decision to >> get over yourself.
- >> Get over yourself is taking a risk. Yes. >> Right. >> And so you I'm going to ask you to get comfortable with the idea of taking a risk. And the reward is going to be hopefully that you get to connect with somebody or at least getting in some reps, >> right? >> The first person might not be ready to connect and that's okay.
- It's an introduction and then you get better. Just say dating in a sense, right? You're not going to find the love of your life. Maybe maybe on the first time, but maybe not. You just have to be open to having conversations and engaging with people to be vulnerable and to be open and also not have it backlash on you.
- You're in a threemon depression because someone said no or they were too busy or they had other things going on in their life. >> That's not going to work. >> Exactly. Exactly. How much more fulfilling and helpful Well, how much more fulfilling would my life be? And how much more support would I have if I'm the guy who struggles with a busy mind is killing it on on in most arenas that I'm operating in.
- I've got these focus issues that affect my family and that affect my marriage, that affect, you know, how I'm interacting with with colleagues. How much better would it be if I've got somebody who is understanding me more and more, who sees into my life and who is not afraid to speak into what they see, right? Like that's that's fantastic that now I I talk about it like it's fantastic, but I realize that that's what we're afraid of as well.
- So it's, you know, it's it's there's two sides of that. But the challenge is to overcome that fear and take that risk that we're talking about and just try something. >> Yep. As we start to wrap up here, that that seems to be the biggest takeaway from this. We we have we're a human being. We have problems.
- We're going to you're going to have problems till the day you die. I'm under the the one thing I always say is that you have many problems. So you have a health problem, then you have one problem. So taking care of your health is so important and taking care of your health puts you in a better frame of mind and reference and gives you that stress outlet to be able to have better relationships with other people and be more emotionally available to most importantly yourself when you get up and look at yourself in your eyes in the mirror. That's so important to
- feel confident, have some self-worth there and and then that goes into the rest of your day to be engaged with those and trying new things and putting yourself out there. And to be honest, I would have to say that our from a simple Facebook or an Instagram follow to where we're at now, like we we were vulnerable. We there was risk.
- maybe he doesn't ever respond to me or you know and this happened two weeks ago roughly when we first initiated this to start a conversation we got on the phone we're like hey this sounds like we could have a conversation and share and and to hear wrap it up in the last two minutes or so I'm my there's lots of value you've added to my life >> so I appreciate you >> reaching just following me and showing an interest in what I do and how I help other people.
- So, >> uh, no, I I totally echo that. Echo that. Um, and I I'm at a point in my life now that I can appreciate that that's how this works. >> Yeah. >> Like you just you kind of put it out there and you're not like you're not attaching your value to the outcome of this this invitation, right? But it's just, hey, I like or this sounds like it could cool, so I'm going to go ahead and try to connect and if it doesn't work out, I'm still Kurt, right? >> Exactly.
- >> Yeah. >> So, what wrapping up here, we say you need to try something. You need to stretch yourself. And it can be small little bit, whether it's going to the gym or saying hello to people. If you just literally said hi to people that looked at you and said, "Hi, how you doing today?" And that is an opportunity to open yourself up.
- So Kurt, tell us where we can find you. >> All right. Well, I'm at kurtampton.com. I'm on Instagram at Kurt Kurt Henry Hampton. And uh reach out and say hello. And I'm Coach Brian. You can find me at the call to rise. And I help men transform their bodies to transform their relationships and beyond with those who matter most and are closest to them. So, check us out.
- There'll be some things in the the the links or the the comments and description. I'll have a a 3-day fat loss Kickstarter that you can do and I'll have that down there and we'll see what Kurt can add to to get you his way, too. So, appreciate everyone. Kurt, I really appreciate just you following me and opening up this conversation. So, thank you.
- Thanks everyone. and have a great


